Ep 195: What can war teach us? | City Bible Forum

Ep 195: What can war teach us?

Should we mention the war?
Sun 25 Apr 2021


Bible reference(s): Revelation 19.11

Should we mention the war? As we remember the fallen on Anzac Day we pause to ponder why war fascinates us and consider what stories of war say about us.

We’re asking today’s big question to Dr. Natasha Moore. Natasha is a Research Fellow at the Centre for Public Christianity. She is a speaker, writer and author of several books, including the 2020 Australian Christian book of the year For the love of God.

This article was inspired by an essay Natasha wrote for ABC Religion and Ethics: What do the stories we tell about the Second World War say about us?

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Bigger Questions asked in this conversation

Natasha, today’s big question is about war. Now Basil Fawlty from the BBC comedy series Fawlty Towers famously said, ‘Don’t mention the war’, so do you think we should talk about war even when it’s unpleasant or confronting?

Smaller Questions

Natasha, our smaller question to you today is about war novels.

War: good vs evil

Now Natasha we’re talking about war today, but you don’t really have any experience of war do you?

But you did write an essay for ABC religion and Ethics, What do the stories we tell about the Second World War say about us? So what stimulated your interest in war stories?

Did you consider Dad’s Army as one of the stories you felt you needed to engage with?

Now in the introduction to that Shortlist list, the authors claim that “Wars, battles and struggles have provided novelists with a cavalcade of inspiration for grand works”. Why do you think this is? Is this what makes war so fascinating?

So what do stories of World War 2 say about us?

Some novels describe evil people and others an evil system? Is this difference substantial?

But why the need to talk about good and evil? What does that reveal about us and our world?

War: search for meaning

You also talk about finding meaning in war?

War: memory, justice responsibility

Now the third point of your essay is that you feel that these stories must be told. Why is that?

Bible: justice in the end

In the final book of the Bible, Revelation, another war is described. In Revelation 19:11 where the author, John, writes in a metaphorical language about the future,

“I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.”

How does this war connect with the longings of the stories we read about war?

The Big Question

So Natasha - what can war teach us?

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  • Alt
    Thu, 29/04/2021 - 5:23am

    Well done Rob for this interview and for your selection of the guest. Dr Natasha obviously knows her topic and provided a great perspective on the topic.

  • Alt
    Thu, 29/04/2021 - 10:34am

    Yes, I thought she did very well and provided some great insights and yes - we do think about guest selection carefully. Thanks for the comment.